there are states like north dakota and south dakota that have normal levels of unemployment, you know, in like below 6%. it's everywhere that, you know, things just built, built, built and imploded. and really, one of the studies showed that the majority of -- that the jobs that we lost that are above the national average -- you know, the national average for unemployment is 9.6% and ours is -- >> 12.4%. >> 12.4%. so that difference can really be accounted for by looking at construction and related industries where we lost maybe 600,000 jobs. in construction, in real estate, in finance, and other related segments like building supplies and furniture. >> is this coming at a surprise -- as a surprise to people since we've heard so many politicians talk about -- >> well, it may be a surprise to politicians, but i don't think it's necessarily a surprise to people. i mean, you can look around you. you can see foreclosures. you can see that we're not building houses. in the boom years california was building 200,000 houses a year. last year was 35,000. that's an incredible, you know, contra